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	<title>Comments on: GUAS: Giving Unwanted Advice Series #2</title>
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		<title>By: Jorge L. Cangas</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/29/guas-giving-unwanted-advice-series-2/comment-page-1/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge L. Cangas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Luis: you are right! To be or not to be professionals, is&#039;nt?. I use ruby on windows for production stuff, so is serious for me, new releases don&#039;t break anything I don&#039;t know. Otherway, I canno&#039;t upgrade my apps, so I will be force to don&#039;t use Ruby in &#039;real&#039; products, only as a (interesting) toy. Sure, the One Click Installer i s great, and your policy is right: moreover: I don&#039;t use twitter!! I expect the warnings and docs go &#039;packaged&#039; with the product, just like the papers that go with my laptop. If not, I want this in any well visible point in the download page, but not in twitter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Luis: you are right! To be or not to be professionals, is&#8217;nt?. I use ruby on windows for production stuff, so is serious for me, new releases don&#8217;t break anything I don&#8217;t know. Otherway, I canno&#8217;t upgrade my apps, so I will be force to don&#8217;t use Ruby in &#8216;real&#8217; products, only as a (interesting) toy. Sure, the One Click Installer i s great, and your policy is right: moreover: I don&#8217;t use twitter!! I expect the warnings and docs go &#8216;packaged&#8217; with the product, just like the papers that go with my laptop. If not, I want this in any well visible point in the download page, but not in twitter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/29/guas-giving-unwanted-advice-series-2/comment-page-1/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dan,

Maybe I didn&#039;t state on the post itself, but DM overcome these _issues_ more quickly than other projects, or at least showed more interest on get those fixed.

That&#039;s one of the reasons I didn&#039;t add more things to DataMapper itself on the message :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dan,</p>
<p>Maybe I didn&#8217;t state on the post itself, but DM overcome these <em>issues</em> more quickly than other projects, or at least showed more interest on get those fixed.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the reasons I didn&#8217;t add more things to DataMapper itself on the message <img src='http://blog.mmediasys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kubb</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/29/guas-giving-unwanted-advice-series-2/comment-page-1/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kubb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis, I believe for the most part we&#039;ve addressed the issues you had with DataMapper since I&#039;ve begun maintaining it and doing the gem releases.

I still do twitter announcements via @datamapper, but I also send messages to the mailing list with links to all the change logs for each gem.  Yeah, it&#039;s alot of gems to release each time, but I feel like we&#039;ve got a handle on it.

We&#039;ve even started work on DataObjects (an offshoot of DM that provides optimized DB drivers) to make Windows gems for do_sqlite3 (with future plans to do the same for do_postgres and do_mysql).  This was something that we collaborated on with you prior to rake-compiler being released, which we plan to integrate so we can remove some of the scaffolding we built up.

If there&#039;s anything else that we could be doing better with DataMapper and DataObjects, please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis, I believe for the most part we&#8217;ve addressed the issues you had with DataMapper since I&#8217;ve begun maintaining it and doing the gem releases.</p>
<p>I still do twitter announcements via @datamapper, but I also send messages to the mailing list with links to all the change logs for each gem.  Yeah, it&#8217;s alot of gems to release each time, but I feel like we&#8217;ve got a handle on it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve even started work on DataObjects (an offshoot of DM that provides optimized DB drivers) to make Windows gems for do_sqlite3 (with future plans to do the same for do_postgres and do_mysql).  This was something that we collaborated on with you prior to rake-compiler being released, which we plan to integrate so we can remove some of the scaffolding we built up.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s anything else that we could be doing better with DataMapper and DataObjects, please let me know.</p>
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