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	<title>Comments on: Ruby 1.9.1 on Windows (from the trenches)</title>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the link to &quot;building the Shoes ruby toolkit in win32 with MinGW&quot; from the other related post--might be useful should others want to try this.  http://www.holymonkey.com/building-shoes-in-windows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the link to &#8220;building the Shoes ruby toolkit in win32 with MinGW&#8221; from the other related post&#8211;might be useful should others want to try this.  <a href="http://www.holymonkey.com/building-shoes-in-windows" rel="nofollow">http://www.holymonkey.com/building-shoes-in-windows</a></p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the link change to http://www.holymonkey.com/building-shoes-in-windows ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the link change to <a href="http://www.holymonkey.com/building-shoes-in-windows" rel="nofollow">http://www.holymonkey.com/building-shoes-in-windows</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said cross-compilation? rake-compiler for you:

http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/13/while-leaving-ny-rake-compiler-for-the-masses/

http://github.com/luislavena/rake-compiler

There are lot of things that you need to test on every release of Ruby, a missing zlib is just one ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said cross-compilation? rake-compiler for you:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/13/while-leaving-ny-rake-compiler-for-the-masses/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/13/while-leaving-ny-rake-compiler-for-the-masses/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://github.com/luislavena/rake-compiler" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/luislavena/rake-compiler</a></p>
<p>There are lot of things that you need to test on every release of Ruby, a missing zlib is just one <img src='http://blog.mmediasys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is great news! Only bundling rubygems with ruby vanilla is the way to go in my opinion.

One could always do a package of common components on the side, but with MinGW GCC being the new go to compiler, one would hope most gems will be compiled without issues; Maybe even cross compilation?

I&#039;ll make sure to watch the mailing list for further updates, but great job so far.

Aside: I noticed in the 1.9.1 preview, zlib.dll was missing, meaning rubygems wouldn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great news! Only bundling rubygems with ruby vanilla is the way to go in my opinion.</p>
<p>One could always do a package of common components on the side, but with MinGW <span class="caps">GCC </span>being the new go to compiler, one would hope most gems will be compiled without issues; Maybe even cross compilation?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make sure to watch the mailing list for further updates, but great job so far.</p>
<p>Aside: I noticed in the 1.9.1 preview, zlib.dll was missing, meaning rubygems wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to add too ;)

With current installer (the huge One-Click) is almost impossible get a faster release.

I spent up to 10 hours on each release doing QA of all the components bundled, and even so, I miss some details.

With the new format we have currently automated pretty much the whole process (besides being a slimmed down version of the installer).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to add too <img src='http://blog.mmediasys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>With current installer (the huge One-Click) is almost impossible get a faster release.</p>
<p>I spent up to 10 hours on each release doing QA of all the components bundled, and even so, I miss some details.</p>
<p>With the new format we have currently automated pretty much the whole process (besides being a slimmed down version of the installer).</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are targetting end of January for the MinGW installer. There are plenty of dependencies that still don&#039;t work with GCC and we need to get working to start matching current version.

1.9.1 and 1.8.6 are targetted with the new Installer. I&#039;m working on a new recipe syntax that ease the building of several versions.

If you&#039;re interested, I recommend you subscribe to rubyinstaller-devel mailing list:

http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rubyinstaller-devel

And start watching the GitHub repository:

http://github.com/luislavena/rubyinstaller

Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are targetting end of January for the MinGW installer. There are plenty of dependencies that still don&#8217;t work with <span class="caps">GCC </span>and we need to get working to start matching current version.</p>
<p>1.9.1 and 1.8.6 are targetted with the new Installer. I&#8217;m working on a new recipe syntax that ease the building of several versions.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested, I recommend you subscribe to rubyinstaller-devel mailing list:</p>
<p><a href="http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rubyinstaller-devel" rel="nofollow">http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rubyinstaller-devel</a></p>
<p>And start watching the GitHub repository:</p>
<p><a href="http://github.com/luislavena/rubyinstaller" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/luislavena/rubyinstaller</a></p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new One-Click build with MinGW is barebones (Ruby+RubyGems) as described here:

http://rubyinstaller.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Roadmap

Since takes ages manually verify all the bundled extensions, gems and others. That one of the reasons for the change.

Other is the Compiler being available to remove the issues with Gems lacking binaries on Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new One-Click build with MinGW is barebones (Ruby+RubyGems) as described here:</p>
<p><a href="http://rubyinstaller.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Roadmap" rel="nofollow">http://rubyinstaller.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Roadmap</a></p>
<p>Since takes ages manually verify all the bundled extensions, gems and others. That one of the reasons for the change.</p>
<p>Other is the Compiler being available to remove the issues with Gems lacking binaries on Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add: I&#039;m talking about 1.9.1 final, scheduled for release on January 25th, not the RC1 or preview. 

Also, I think you&#039;re doing a great job on it, just wish it&#039;d be possible to get faster releases. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add: I&#8217;m talking about 1.9.1 final, scheduled for release on January 25th, not the <span class="caps">RC1 </span>or preview. </p>
<p>Also, I think you&#8217;re doing a great job on it, just wish it&#8217;d be possible to get faster releases. <img src='http://blog.mmediasys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Luis,

Does this mean there will be a 1.9.1 windows release soon after, but without compatibility with existing gems? That would make sense to me at least, since a lot of them have to be rebuilt for 1.9 anyway?

If not, have you considered releasing a barebones 1.9.1 compiled with mingw that only includes what the *nix version does, in addition to perhaps RubyGems itself, for those of us that are willing to deal with incompatible gems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Luis,</p>
<p>Does this mean there will be a 1.9.1 windows release soon after, but without compatibility with existing gems? That would make sense to me at least, since a lot of them have to be rebuilt for 1.9 anyway?</p>
<p>If not, have you considered releasing a barebones 1.9.1 compiled with mingw that only includes what the *nix version does, in addition to perhaps RubyGems itself, for those of us that are willing to deal with incompatible gems?</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://blog.mmediasys.com/2008/12/31/ruby-191-on-windows-from-the-trenches/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Tom,

I commented previously on several mailing list that there will not be a 1.9.1 release of One-Click installer using the current Installer mechanism.

Is really hard do releases for the current 1.8.6 codebase and all the bundled extensions and plugins.

1.9.1 needs more testing of the bundled components and that requires more han the one I have available for Open Source projects.

We are working in a series of recipes that ease building of the interpreter and dependencies for both 1.8.6 and 1.9.1 with MinGW, not VC6.

That breaks the compatibility with current VC6 gems and extensions, so we are working on ease the migration path.

Don&#039;t expect a release of this version until end of January, there are too many changes between 1.8.x and 1.9 that needs to be tracked for properly release something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Tom,</p>
<p>I commented previously on several mailing list that there will not be a 1.9.1 release of One-Click installer using the current Installer mechanism.</p>
<p>Is really hard do releases for the current 1.8.6 codebase and all the bundled extensions and plugins.</p>
<p>1.9.1 needs more testing of the bundled components and that requires more han the one I have available for Open Source projects.</p>
<p>We are working in a series of recipes that ease building of the interpreter and dependencies for both 1.8.6 and 1.9.1 with MinGW, not <span class="caps">VC6.</span></p>
<p>That breaks the compatibility with current <span class="caps">VC6 </span>gems and extensions, so we are working on ease the migration path.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t expect a release of this version until end of January, there are too many changes between 1.8.x and 1.9 that needs to be tracked for properly release something.</p>
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